Episode 1
The Art of Defining Oneself Beyond Career Labels
This inaugural episode of our podcast, titled "The Art of Defining Oneself Beyond Career Labels" or for short; "Define Yourself," delves into the inherent challenges of self-identification beyond professional titles and familial roles. We, Mariann Morell and Nikki Bromberg (segment host of "Tea with Nikki") candidly explore the complexities of our identities as we navigate the multifaceted responsibilities of parenthood and career transitions. The discourse highlights the significance of acknowledging the difficulties that accompany personal growth, especially in a society where the pressure to conform to defined roles can be overwhelming. We aim to cultivate a supportive community where open conversations about life's challenges can flourish, allowing individuals to share their experiences and insights. Through this episode, we invite listeners to reflect on their own identities and the myriad ways in which they define themselves, emphasizing that the journey of self-discovery, despite its difficulties, can ultimately lead to profound growth and connection.
The inaugural episode of 'This Is Difficult' serves as a poignant introduction to the podcast's overarching theme of navigating life's complexities. The host, Mariann Morell, shares her personal journey of transitioning from the corporate healthcare sector into the realm of podcasting, underscoring the challenges and uncertainties that accompany such a significant pivot. Through her candid reflections, she articulates the notion that life, in its multifaceted nature, is inherently difficult, yet these challenges often yield profound growth and learning opportunities. Mariann's emphasis on community building and creating a safe space for meaningful conversations resonates throughout the episode, establishing a foundation for future discussions with diverse guests who will join her to share their own narratives of struggle and resilience. Furthermore, the episode introduces an embedded segment, 'Tea with Nikki,' hosted by Nikki Bromberg, thereby expanding the dialogue around personal difficulties and the unifying experience of facing life's obstacles together. The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to reflect on their own identities beyond professional titles, encouraging a deeper understanding of self amidst the chaos of daily life.
Takeaways:
- This inaugural episode of the podcast focuses on the challenges faced in creating a community to foster open conversations about life's difficulties.
- Mariann Morell shares her personal journey of transitioning from a corporate healthcare operator to venturing into the realm of podcasting.
- Every episode aims to highlight the shared experiences that bind us together, especially in the face of life's inherent difficulties.
- The podcast intends to serve as a platform for individuals to not only discuss their professional identities but also explore their personal lives beyond their job titles.
- Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own identities, examining who they are outside of their careers and relationships with family.
- The episode underscores the importance of self-care and maintaining one's personal well-being while navigating the complexities of caregiving and personal responsibilities.
Transcript
Hello and welcome to this Is Difficult, the debut episode of the podcast this Is Difficult.
Speaker A:I am so excited you guys are here today, hopefully tuning in on Spotify, Apple or Amazon.
Speaker A:I am Marian Morrell and this is Difficult.
Speaker A:I don't know if you guys had a chance to look at the logo, but that was actually part of my creative process.
Speaker A:And in typing a little too quickly, difficult got spelled wrong.
Speaker A:And you know what, I decided to roll with it because this is difficult.
Speaker A:Actually making this podcast is difficult for me.
Speaker A:This is not, you know, my natural state of affairs, if you will.
Speaker A:So this has been, this has been really challenging and difficult in a great way.
Speaker A:I am by trade a operator and I've spent, I guess the last 15ish years in the healthcare industry.
Speaker A:And yeah, kind of pivoting really to this world of podcasting, of really trying to challenge myself and bring together a community of people and spread information in a different way than I was in my previous career.
Speaker A:So, again, I'm so excited that we're going to be rolling these out hopefully on a bi weekly basis.
Speaker A:We have some incredible guests as well as an amazing series that we have embedded in the podcast structure.
Speaker A:Now I'm going back to my corporate speak here, so we're going to kick off today with our embedded series.
Speaker A:And how did this come about?
Speaker A:Well, I stepped away from the corporate world, if you will, which I actually loved and still do about a year ago, and had my second child, my son, about six months ago.
Speaker A:And you know, kind of in this past year I've been working and formulating what is my next step going to look like and how does this fit in with how I want to spend my time and the needs that we have as a family unit.
Speaker A:And I decided that doing something that would allow maximum flexibility and still allowing me to be kind of creative in a way, which is a part of my identity that I've used, I think very successfully in corporate culture.
Speaker A:But now I can kind of take it in a different direction.
Speaker A:So I'm really looking forward to seeing how this turns out and seeing what difficult challenges lie ahead with the creation of this podcast.
Speaker A:You know, starting off with trying to get a logo set up and ready to go to, you know, how, how the tech works, right, all the hardware that you need, the software that you need, working through all of those, there are some incredible online resources.
Speaker A:So I thank each and every one of you for posting those, writing about them, and keeping the rest of us non tech people informed about what to do and how to do it in Very clear, concise language.
Speaker A:And I appreciate all of your reviews.
Speaker A:I have read them and used them, read copious amounts about doing this.
Speaker A:So as I ruminated for about a year, yes, yes, I did give birth in that time.
Speaker A:Yes, I did spend that time, you know, dedicated solely to that.
Speaker A:But here we are.
Speaker A:And I'm excited for this, to see what becomes of this and hopefully create this community and create this place where people feel they could come on the show and talk about themselves.
Speaker A:And a safe space, if you will, to have open conversations that frankly need to be had about how difficult things that they're facing in day to day life is how difficult all of this is.
Speaker A:And not that we don't all do it every day, but just acknowledging that every day isn't super easy, right?
Speaker A:It's challenging.
Speaker A:Every day is challenging.
Speaker A:And it can be difficult.
Speaker A:And sometimes in the most rewarding way.
Speaker A:It's not necessarily a bad thing that it was difficult today.
Speaker A:Sometimes it's a really good thing.
Speaker A:You learned a lot, you grew, you had a wonderful time.
Speaker A:It was even hard just, you know, getting the kids in the car, that was really difficult.
Speaker A:But you took them to Sesame Place or to Disney World or whatever you did.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it was difficult, but you did it and it was wonderful.
Speaker A:And everybody is.
Speaker A:You're making good memories.
Speaker A:So I, again, am looking forward to everybody taking time to enjoy listening and enjoy being here with me doing some recordings.
Speaker A:And without further to do, I want to tell you a little bit about this series that we've embedded and the series is called Tea with Nikki.
Speaker A:And the host of Tea with Nikki is a dear, dear friend of mine, as well as a former work associate and mother and creative and wonderful human, Nikki Bromberg.
Speaker A:Nikki, take it away.
Speaker B:Thanks, Mare.
Speaker B:That was really kind and I feel so honored to be part of this new venture of yours.
Speaker A:So thank you.
Speaker A:I appreciate that.
Speaker B:And you know, something that I've always loved about you is how committed you are to uplifting other women.
Speaker A:Thank you.
Speaker B:And by you allowing me to come on and have a voice, it really does that for me.
Speaker B:So thank you so much.
Speaker A:I thought of you because, be honest, you're the most confident person I know with a microphone.
Speaker A:I get a microphone in front of me and I'm like, who do I know is really good with a microphone?
Speaker A:Nikki?
Speaker B:This is just because I enjoy karaoke more than the average person I think should.
Speaker B:So I feel really good with a mic in my hand.
Speaker B:But thank you.
Speaker B:And, you know, just to hearken back to the name Tea with Nikki, so Marianne and I worked at an amazing nonprofit in the city of Philadelphia, which thankfully is still kicking and helping people out every single day.
Speaker B:But if you work for a nonprofit, you know that it's very chaotic.
Speaker B:It is beautiful chaos, but very chaotic.
Speaker B:You wear a lot of hats.
Speaker B:And so we would take.
Speaker A:And all in service, right?
Speaker A:All in service to.
Speaker A:Because you're behind the mission, right?
Speaker A:When you work for a nonprofit, you're really behind the mission.
Speaker A:At least, hopefully you are right.
Speaker A:You're there for the right reasons, and you're working to serve that mission.
Speaker A:And either the people, the thing that that mission is working towards.
Speaker A:And we will, I think, really lucky to be there at a time of immense growth for that nonprofit and meet incredible people.
Speaker A:We formed an amazing relationship, but we.
Speaker A:We still have a group of friends from that time that I think, you know, we'll have the rest of our lives.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think when you're really in the throes of doing very difficult work, and it really does connect you and it does bond you, but we would take those moments to.
Speaker B:To ourselves in my office, your office, wherever we could find space to just like, chat and debrief and take a deep breath, and we would say it's just spilling the tea with each other.
Speaker B:So I think that's where it comes from.
Speaker B:Also, my immense love of a good chai.
Speaker B:So happy to have my name connected with the word tea.
Speaker B:But, yeah, I'm thrilled to be here.
Speaker B:And when you said you were going to do a podcast, podcast called this Is Difficult, and it really resonated with me because, you know, life, it is.
Speaker B:It's everything.
Speaker B:It's ups, it's downs, it's good, it's bad.
Speaker B:And some days, you know, it just feels really challenging and you can feel really lonely.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:It's true.
Speaker A:And I think that with or without kids, I think it's magnified once you've had children because there are more times when you're less able to be yourself, I guess, because you give more.
Speaker A:I find.
Speaker A:I find that my post and pre.
Speaker A:Self, you know, you find a new.
Speaker A:You dig deep, absolutely every day and in incredible ways.
Speaker A:But you definitely.
Speaker A:You're definitely digging deeper than.
Speaker A:Or I found.
Speaker A:I was digging deeper being a caregiver for my children than I was prior to that.
Speaker A:And I think in a good way, like, I developed a sense of patience that I didn't have before, and I'm really, really thankful to them for that.
Speaker A:And I felt it just added on with the birth of my son.
Speaker A:Not that I'm still the most patient person in the world, but it just.
Speaker A:A switch flipped, and I just gained that.
Speaker A:That skill, honestly, from them, and because of them, which was wonderful, and I think.
Speaker A:But it's a difficult skill because you're master.
Speaker A:Just one of the many things I mastered after.
Speaker A:Or attempted, you know, gained, learned.
Speaker A:Shall I say, after.
Speaker A:After having kids, it's an outcome of a.
Speaker B:The challenges that come along with being a parent.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But I will say, you know, life is difficult.
Speaker A:You know, we're both parents, we're both moms, but a caregiver in any sense has those challenges.
Speaker A:It's not just being a parent, and it's not just being a woman or a man or anything.
Speaker A:It's really everybody.
Speaker A:Everybody has these challenges, whether you're caring for a parent, a sibling, your children, a partner, you name it.
Speaker A:I think yourself, yourself.
Speaker A:I mean, caring for yourself, I think, is one of the hardest things to do.
Speaker A:So, yeah, it's difficult.
Speaker A:It's difficult.
Speaker B:Yeah, it absolutely is.
Speaker B:But I think that in and of itself, the difficulties of life are great unifiers, because no matter where you are, no matter what you're experiencing, you know, we're all sort of going through it together.
Speaker B:And in a world where you can feel sort of alone, I find that the more you share what you're going through, your challenges, you find connection, you meet people that have had similar experiences, and you learn from them, then hopefully this podcast can really be that.
Speaker B:A space to say, hey, life is messy, but we're with you.
Speaker B:We feel it.
Speaker B:We are feel it, too.
Speaker A:We are.
Speaker A:We do feel it.
Speaker A:And I think Nikki and I have for years been able to be that sounding board for each other, and hopefully this community will build on.
Speaker A:On kind of the refuge that we found in each other and be able to, you know, present that and then present.
Speaker A:There are tons of exciting guests that we have on that, I think, add new perspectives, and it's just interesting to hear all of the wonderful people that hopefully we'll be talking to as this grows and grows.
Speaker A:Absolutely.
Speaker B:And I think in a world, too, where you can feel really bogged down with the heaviness of everything, and it's very real, and it's, you know, it's all very important to stay attuned to, but we.
Speaker B:We also need chances and spaces to just, you know, decompress from all of that and.
Speaker B:And focus on the good things that do exist and the good people that do exist.
Speaker B:So I hope that's what we're creating here.
Speaker B:But actually, I know you had more of a question that you wanted to infuse into this.
Speaker A:You did.
Speaker B:So I'm excited to hear that.
Speaker A:So something that I want to ask every single person who comes on this podcast is how do you define yourself?
Speaker A:So, you know, we're entered.
Speaker A:I'm introducing Nikki, I'm introducing myself.
Speaker A:And I think that this is very, very on point for this being the first episode.
Speaker A:How do you define yourself and call it?
Speaker A:Ten years ago, maybe a little bit more, I was in a women's networking group, and it was Friday mornings before work, and we would get together and have coffee and in these groups, and the moderator was there, and the moderator would have us introduce ourselves.
Speaker A:Now there are anywhere from five women to 15 women who would flow in and out.
Speaker A:So not necessarily always the same women every week.
Speaker A:And she asked you to introduce yourself, but without using your job title.
Speaker A:And I'm going to add on to that, not using your role in the family.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So I, like, I'm a mom.
Speaker B:I can't say that.
Speaker A:Don't say that.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I mean, do talk about it, but don't.
Speaker A:But who are you, Nikki Bromberg?
Speaker A:Who are you and how do those pieces.
Speaker A:Because those pieces are.
Speaker A:Are core to you, and they are going to influence your life as a mom, your career, and vice versa.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:And they do for everybody.
Speaker A:And I know my corporate life has influenced my home life and vice versa, but I find that I am a person who loves being outside, who loves to garden, who loves to walk, who loves a good home renovation.
Speaker A:Bored to you ever.
Speaker A:Who loves to read, who loves to cook.
Speaker A:These are all the things I like to do, but that make me feel whole when I spend my time doing them.
Speaker A:And I've been able to.
Speaker A:I don't know about you, but with your kids, start, you know, as they get a little bit older, work with your personality and do the things you enjoy doing, but with them and as their personality develops, getting to enjoy the things they develop with them.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I think it's really.
Speaker B:I think just on that note, I think it's really cool for kids to.
Speaker B:To see their parents have passions and be invested in things.
Speaker B:I think it's inspiring for them.
Speaker B:And yeah, I always loved, you know, looking at my parents and the things that they.
Speaker B:That they did and they did in the community and did in the world.
Speaker B:And I was always really motivated by it.
Speaker B:But, wow, this is an amazing question and a deeply challenging question.
Speaker A:It's a hard question, right?
Speaker B:It is.
Speaker B:I think so much of our identity is wrapped up in what we do.
Speaker A:Yes, it is.
Speaker B:It's the first question you ask of someone when you meet them.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker B:Your name is what?
Speaker B:And you do what?
Speaker B:What?
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Yeah, but this is, this is a really good chance to be self reflective, especially much like you.
Speaker B:I'm in a time of transition.
Speaker B:I have a medically complex baby at home.
Speaker B:I have two daughters and blessed for them both.
Speaker B:But I really kind of had to take a step back from my, my full time work so we can figure out how to best care for her and make sure that she is the priority in all of this.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker B:So who am I?
Speaker B:Geez.
Speaker B:I am deeply passionate about the performing arts.
Speaker B:All of it.
Speaker A:You are.
Speaker B:Ugh.
Speaker B:Singing, dancing, musical theater, straight plays, Any and all of it.
Speaker B:I absolutely love.
Speaker A:Give you a microphone.
Speaker B:Give me a microphone.
Speaker B:Gosh, where will I take you?
Speaker B:But I try to sing as often as I can, even if it's just just to myself.
Speaker B:My 4 year old is constantly telling me to be quiet and that's how I know I'm parenting correctly.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:When your child is embarrassed by you, you know you're nailing it.
Speaker A:Oh my gosh.
Speaker A:You're not gonna believe this.
Speaker A:Friday afternoon at pickup, my daughter's teacher comes out to me and said, I just wanna let you know.
Speaker A:Your daughter said she was so embarrassed that you were here for pickup.
Speaker A:And I was like, it's happening, it's happening.
Speaker A:She is on the cusp of turning 4 and it's happening.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm embarrassing her already.
Speaker B:Good job.
Speaker B:Success.
Speaker B:Success in your role.
Speaker B:Just imagine when she's like 13, 14.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:10 years from now, if we're embarrassed at 4.
Speaker B:Oh, one can only imagine.
Speaker B:But it's so funny.
Speaker B:But I, you know, I also, I love, love cooking and I love to pretend I'm on a cooking show and just, I challenge myself with.
Speaker B:I can only create something out of what I have in my cabinets in my fridge.
Speaker B:That's always really exciting to me.
Speaker B:Love to read, don't do it enough, Love to write, and definitely don't do it enough.
Speaker B:And I think this, this time has really made me, while I'm caring for my child, made me think about who I am as an autonomous person even more.
Speaker B:If I had the time, what would I want to dedicate to?
Speaker B:So with every challenge can come opportunity like you're creating here.
Speaker A:It's true, it can.
Speaker A:And I think, you know, they always say, you know, it was meant to be and I'm hoping that this, this will turn into this was meant to be.
Speaker A:In this spaces that we're creating here is really.
Speaker A:Is really gonna allow for more people to.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Feel good about talking.
Speaker A:Talking about themselves, not just what they do, but really who they are, what makes them tick.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Who are you?
Speaker A:Not just.
Speaker A:You're more than just what you do.
Speaker A:You're an incredible person.
Speaker A:And I want to hear about all.
Speaker A:I want to hear about everybody.
Speaker A:I.
Speaker A:I love people watching and.
Speaker A:But I'm always so interested in their stories.
Speaker A:I love meeting new people, talking to them.
Speaker A:A couple years ago, we moved, and it has been so interesting to meet all of my neighbors.
Speaker A:They're interesting people, creative people, and it's been great to get to know them.
Speaker A:And, you know, I think in your adult life, you don't get the opportunity to constantly.
Speaker A:I mean, you meet new people, but very superficially.
Speaker A:And so, you know, embedding yourself in a community like you do when you move has been wonderful to take that opportunity to really.
Speaker A:To really get to know some folks.
Speaker A:And I feel very lucky that where my husband and I landed and that we're in a great community here.
Speaker B:I think collecting the stories and experiences of others is such an exciting part of life.
Speaker B:And, you know, you never know when someone that you meet can really inspire you along your journey, and you never know who you're inspiring.
Speaker B:Just sort of how you show up in the world and, you know, you know, and being.
Speaker B:Being.
Speaker B:Being a mom, being a parent, or as you said, like, being a caregiver of any kind, I think it's easy to lose yourself and lose who you are.
Speaker B:And so anytime we're able to find even just sort of, that one thing that is solely for us, that brings us back to who we.
Speaker B:Who we as an individual are.
Speaker B:I started dancing again, like, taking classes.
Speaker A:Oh, that's wonderful.
Speaker B:I can't even tell you the joy that it has ignited in me.
Speaker B:It has just rekindled that love that I have of being free and moving and connecting with my body in a positive way.
Speaker A:On the same note that I walk with my son almost every day.
Speaker A:And just like that time outside is.
Speaker A:I feel so.
Speaker A:It just feels so healthy for me.
Speaker B:You walked in the blizzard that is outside today.
Speaker B:That is how committed you are today.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:I did.
Speaker A:It was wonderful.
Speaker A:And on my last lap, my daughter joins and she's catching snowflakes with her tongue.
Speaker A:And it was.
Speaker A:It was great.
Speaker A:It was fun.
Speaker A:It was, you know, winter memories that hopefully I get to keep forever.
Speaker A:And I treasure that outside time.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I feel so whole and good.
Speaker A:After.
Speaker A:After Taking some time to be outside, regardless of the weather, clearly.
Speaker B:Yeah, I think that's awesome.
Speaker A:I love that.
Speaker A:But, yeah, it's part of.
Speaker A:It's part of who I am.
Speaker A:It's part of my identity.
Speaker A:It's part of what makes me as a person fulfilled every day.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:Of hopefully you can find fulfillment in your career and you find fulfillment in your family, but also being able to be.
Speaker A:To fill your own cup so you're able to give.
Speaker A:And I think that that was always something that was really important, especially, you know, as you said, we were working in a nonprofit and you do give a lot.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:But just the nature of when you're in those positions and you want to make sure you're filling your own cup, so you do have something left to give.
Speaker A:And I think that's really important when you are a caregiver in any position where you need to give all the time and ensuring that your cup is full so you have, you have that energy to give back to your co workers, the mission you're serving, your children, your spouse, whoever, you know, your partner, whoever it is that is going to need that from you or even yourself.
Speaker A:Right.
Speaker A:You need some reserves to build yourself back up.
Speaker A:You know, the end of a long day, a long week, a long year.
Speaker A:Heck, I'm going to make every single guest answer this question.
Speaker A:Who are they?
Speaker A:And don't talk about your job, though.
Speaker A:We will talk about your job, because people have really interesting careers and how you ended up there and landed there, I think is a part of your identity.
Speaker A:But.
Speaker B:But it's a great exercise.
Speaker A:It's a great exercise.
Speaker A:It really is.
Speaker A:And it pushed me and I will always remember that.
Speaker A:And I always try to think about that.
Speaker A:And I always, you know, whenever I was in a meeting, you know, I want to get to know especially those folks that you're going to be working with quite often making sure that you're checking in with them as people and not just necessarily on the project.
Speaker A:And I think that that makes everyone feel heard and connected, that you're on, that you're there together to serve, that whatever that particular project is, that you're really being that resource for them and that you understand.
Speaker A:Yes, we all have pieces of this project, but we're all human as well.
Speaker A:And I've always thought that that was really important piece of what I can offer is that we have a moment of human connection.
Speaker A:That was my take on it.
Speaker B:No, absolutely.
Speaker B:And I hope that over the weeks of us connecting and talking and reminding each other to look inward Stay connected to who we are, to what fills us.
Speaker B:And what fills us, we can remind listeners to do the same.
Speaker B:And it doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
Speaker B:It doesn't mean that there are those days where you get completely lost, you know, in the people that you're caring for and everything around you.
Speaker B:But, you know, for every time that you do successfully sort of, you know, make a choice because it feels right to you or do something that is fulfilling, you know, count that as a win.
Speaker B:I'm trying in this, in this new year to when I'm unable to do that, when things don't go exactly as I would have wanted them to do.
Speaker B:And I, you know, just did not beat myself up for it, which is almost also work and part of my work.
Speaker B:But to say, okay, you know what?
Speaker B:It happened.
Speaker B:Tomorrow's a new day.
Speaker B:Tomorrow is a new opportunity to, you know, be kinder to myself, to cherish myself a little bit more.
Speaker A:I want to applaud you for.
Speaker B:Yeah, well, it's a lifelong, lifelong exercise.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:But you're just, you're never too old, never too, you know, stuck in a place.
Speaker B:You can't make changes, growth.
Speaker B:But I've also come to realize that while we're in the process of making change, to be kind to ourselves, to be gentle with ourselves, because we don't always go from 0 to 100.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker B:There's a pathway and while we're on that pathway to be really compassionate to ourselves.
Speaker A:And I think that that was going back to this original exercise that I witnessed that I was a part of then.
Speaker A:That was how the moderator put it.
Speaker A:She's like you.
Speaker A:You know, all these women would sit there and just not be able to come up with an answer.
Speaker A:They struggled.
Speaker A:And these women are incredible, and they are struggling so hard to answer this question.
Speaker A:And I did too.
Speaker A:I did too.
Speaker A:You know, and with practice, right.
Speaker A:Keep going back to the group and keep practicing that particular thing I did.
Speaker A:You know, eventually I was able to come up with an answer.
Speaker A:And some days I would feel more like talking about this portion of my who I am and what kind of motivated me on a day to day basis.
Speaker A:And yeah, like how I.
Speaker A:What motivated me to do the work I was doing, what motivated me to take the vacation you're taking, to do the shop at this grocery store versus that grocery store?
Speaker A:I mean, there are.
Speaker A:We make decisions throughout every day and so much of it is based on who we are and not necessarily what we do.
Speaker A:And I just thought it was the most interesting exercise that a lot of people struggle with.
Speaker A:And I think, and not just women, I think everyone struggles with who are they outside of their job.
Speaker A:And I think you spend your entire childhood and then you get to this adulthood and then this is who you are and it's more rigid and trying to get that pliability back that you see that I see in my kids is quite the exercise and I think it's.
Speaker A:But it's worth it.
Speaker A:I think it's worth it to make, to do a self check and really be intentional about filling your own cup in that way and, and checking in that you are filling your own cup.
Speaker B:So anyway, that's the challenge I think for listeners, right, is who are you?
Speaker A:Is who are you Define yourself outside of, outside of your job.
Speaker A:Which is, yeah, it's quite the exercise as we've explored today.
Speaker A:This is episode one and we're going to name this episode Define Yourself.
Speaker A:And hopefully you guys will tune back to our next episode.
Speaker A:Do you can follow me on this is Difficult podcast all underscores.
Speaker A:So this underscore is underscore difficultpodcast on Instagram as we are published on Spotify, Apple and Amazon.
Speaker A:So tune in, tune in to hear this is Difficult.
Speaker A:Tune in to hear tea with Nikki and we will see you in about two weeks.
Speaker A:Thank you everyone so much for being here with us on our first episode and thank you Nikki for taking time and joining me in this adventure.
Speaker A:Thanks guys.
Speaker A:Till next time.
